Oh so you've only done test only and now you want to hop on the tren train huh? Some sides flare up and you don't know if it's the mast or the tren. Oh well. So you run it anyways That's fine and dandy and if you do things half right, you might end up looking pretty good. That's the point right? Well you're off cycle now and you turn back to looking like, well before you did tren, which isn't bad but it's not tren good, as you're used to. You get depressed and want to hop back on right away but all of a sudden the tren's not working as well. So now you up the dosage of tren and test and that's all fine and dandy as well. You think, well maybe I'll just switch compounds and you try deca or something and you think it's good but you're like damn its never as good as my third cycle of mast and tren so you go back to that and now you're running some pretty good doses. I'm gonna assume you're younger, idk why but it seems the young think they know it all and can just run straight into tren without trying the other compounds out. So now you're running high doses and when you pct, you feel like shit, depressed, you go to the doctor and you've got low T, and hopefully not other health problems. You can't get a boner and every time that damn animal cruelty commercial comes on you're weeping like a baby. So now you're on TRT and you keep thinking back to that third cycle and how you looked good and then you look in the mirror and go into a lifetime of depression because you will never recapture that look. So now you're sitting in the bathtub about to reach over and grab your toaster. All because you wanted to skip ahead and take some shortcuts.